Empowering Survivors with Padideh Jafari, ESQ
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bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Welcome to Business As Unusual. Today we are joined by Pita Jfa, Esquire, founder and CEO of Jfa Law and Mediation Office.
With over 22 years of experience handling complex cases, pita uniquely approaches her work with a psychology based method , even serving as a podcast co-host on the narcissistic Abuse Recovery Channel or narc. On Narc, she educates listeners on the complexities of narcissistic relationships, empowering them to set boundaries and lead with purpose, her blend of legal.
And Psychological insight truly offers an unconventional pathway to redefining success and embodying the spirit of business as unusual. Welcome to the show.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Thank you so much for having me. And,
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: uh, I, we're gonna range a little bit around all of this, but I know . One of the things that, uh, we sort of bounce back and forth with the topics that, that you like to talk about is that, uh, those boundaries that, and that leading with purpose. And I, I think also a [00:01:00] lot of people have a, a suspicion, if you will, about the legal profession and especially when it comes to something as tender and vulnerable as a relationship ending is, and abuse.
So I don't know if there's anything you'd like to speak to around that.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Yeah, I mean. I understand. I mean, nobody really wants an attorney. Um, sometimes you need an attorney and so I understand that. I mean, you know, attorneys, especially in a family law, divorce are very expensive. We practice in LA County and Orange County. So you know, the rates are high, the retainers are high, so I understand that and I'm sympathetic to that.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Do you feel like, uh, the,
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: I
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: I guess there's a balance of between the mediation or the, do the mediation and the legal practice kind of go hand in hand or in that, or do you think that helps people to feel some sense of, I don't know, [00:02:00] trust or, um,
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Right.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: being able to go through mediation?
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Right. So, you know, there's, there's different types of when a client comes in, you have to give them, or we do anyway, give them options. We say, you know, there's mediation, there's collaborative law, and then there's litigation. So
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Mm-hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: is where both parties come together to the attorney and they say, you know, I want you to be a neutral lawyer for both of us. So we can't really tell them what to do. We have to just give them options and tell them what the law is. So sometimes in mediation, like a client will say, well, can I meet with you separately? And you can't do that because then you're not showing that you're a neutral.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: The second type is collaborative law.
Now this has been around, really, it's, it's a newer area of the law, about 20, [00:03:00] maybe 25, 30 years. So I would say that it's newer and um, that's where the parties each have their own collaborative attorneys. So they do have lawyers, but they sign an agreement that they don't go to court with these attorneys.
So what that forces the parties to do is resolve everything in. Sort of a, um, you know. I, I say now Zoom because
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Mm-hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: usually we're doing it these days. But you can be in a conference room and resolve all of your, marital issues in the divorce with attorneys. So you have someone that's advocating for you, but in a collaborative setting, it's a win-win for both spouses. I love collaborative law. I wish I could do more of it. I remember when it was really. PO becoming popular and some divorce attorneys just don't do that area of the law. So there's
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: of us that do. And then the [00:04:00] last option is litigation. And litigation is where it's going to cost you the most. And you know, when clients say like, I don't wanna spend the money. I just say, okay, well then let's look at ways to settle. Right.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Mm-hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: long as I'm in your life and, and your spouse has an attorney, it's gonna be costly. So, you know, only, um, 3% of cases in LA County go to trial because trial is very expensive.
It could be 25, 50, a hundred thousand dollars. So if you don't want. have that expense, then you need to find a way to resolve your dispute. Um, and, that's okay, right? Like it's okay to resolve your dispute and not go to
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Mm-hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: um, although I am a trial attorney. I still suggest, you know, resolving disputes and sometimes it actually happens night before you're going to trial or the [00:05:00] day
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Mm-hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: when the judge says, you know, take one more time and go meet and confer outside in the, uh, attorney conference room or in the hallway, and the client will say, okay, I'm, I'm ready to settle.
So,
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: so although, you know. People don't like of divorce attorneys. We only can do what the client tells us to do. So if the client wants to resolve the conflict and not pay attorney's fees, that's a great option for them. Right?
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Right. No, that makes a lot of sense. And so what,
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: what
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: what was your path to get to, to this, the collaborative and the dealing with the, um. The abuse piece, was it something you saw or is there something you're willing to share a little bit more about?
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Yes, of course. Um, so I've been a divorce attorney for 22 years and, um, I met [00:06:00] my abuser, um, right before I. after I graduated law school, but, but while I was waiting my bar results, so that's when I met him. And, uh, I was actually working for a attorney in Woodland Hills, California, who's since passed away. And, um, he was a client of hers, so. He came in and it was sort of like love at first sight. I would say stupidity on my, on my first sight. But, but um, so it was love at first sight and we got together and, you know, dated for two years and. You know, married for four and a half, five years. That sort of started, I know I was a brand new attorney, as you can imagine.
Just really hungry for the law and excited to go to court, make legal arguments, and then hear. When I would come home, I was dealing with a lot of abuse and I didn't know at the time that it was narcissistic abuse. [00:07:00] Um, back then, you know, 22 years ago, we just used to say the person is toxic
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Right.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: abusive, but we, we didn't have an actual name to it. And so went through that, you know, sort of, you know, trial and tribulations I'd like to say. And then. Got, you know, got divorced. Um, subsequently I moved to New York City. I was bicoastal for 13 years. So, went and taught, you know, at NYU taught law there. And so, um, got to do other things besides being a divorce attorney for a couple years.
And then, um, eight years later, met my husband, who is the most amazing man ever. And, um, so I didn't realize at the time. That it was narcissistic abuse until I met my husband because he had a similar situation with his ex-wife. And so I, I wanted to read the court documents, which is really funny because I'm a lawyer and [00:08:00] I was like, let me read the court documents of your divorce because I wanna know what she has said about you.
'cause this is the courting phase, right? And the, and what she wrote about him in the court doc documents was not the person I was falling in love with. It was like a totally different person I felt like was being described. And so it opened a lot of room for conversation and healthy conversation, you know, like, what, what does this, what does this all mean?
And so. This was about six years ago, and people were starting to talk about narcissistic abuse, and so I was like going on Instagram, going on YouTube, doing my own research, and I said, oh my gosh, this is narcissistic abuse. Like you've been through a narcissistic abuse. And it clicked for me, like Oprah says that, you know, I had the aha moment that I had gone through something similar. And,
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Mm-hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: his ex, I would say was a covert narcissist, [00:09:00] mine was malignant, but the blueprint was the same. It was that both of us were really trying hard in our marriages and getting nowhere. And
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: So that's why I have such a passion. About informing the community about narcissistic abuse because I am actually a survivor of it myself.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah, that's powerful. It, how does that show up? Would you say that, how that shows up differently in the divorce proceedings? Do they, is it pretty much the same
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: type of
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: of thing? Or are there things that you've noticed that are different when somebody's dealing with that?
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: so thing about narcissistic abuse is that the blueprint is very similar in every situation, but the stories are different. So when I have clients coming in and they'll say, you know, I was abused. Sometimes they don't even know the word narcissism. And so, you know, we'll go through it and I'll, you know, make notes [00:10:00] and then I'll say, you know, have you heard about narcissism?
And maybe you should go to therapy and kind of explore that or give them a book or something like that. And I'm all about education, like I'm not here to diagnose anyone, obviously as an attorney, that's not my specialty.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: All right.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: think it's important to put a name to what you're going through and then you can figure out like.
Oh my gosh, this is what's happened to me. And then start your road to recovery because you know, even with the title of our podcast, it's called the Narcissist Abuse Recovery Channel, and it's important that people realize that there is recovery at the end of this. Should they leave their narcissist and seek that route.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Right. That makes, that sounds like helpful. Really helpful to see and I have some sense of what to, what to pay attention to maybe.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Yes, and also the triggers too, right? Because
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Mm-hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: to your [00:11:00] point, now you're in court with them and there's gonna be a lot of triggers. I say, if you don't have a child, then that's the best case scenario because after the divorce you can. Block them and move on with your life. But when you have a child, now you have to learn co-parenting skills.
And by the way, narcissists don't co-parent, they anti parent.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah. Yeah.,
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: You have to learn ways to deal with this person at least. In California, it's 18 or 19. If your child's in, in high school, still in New York where my husband got divorced, it's 21 or 22 the child's in college. So he's dealing with this even to this day, um, because he has one more child that's in college.
So it's it, you have to learn and have tools because you know that the narcissist is not going to. Right. They're going to be
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: um, everything you do that's [00:12:00] good and healthy, they're going to be countering it. Yeah.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: What
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: What does success look like for you?
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: So I lead with empathy. I think that as a divorce attorney. You probably don't hear that often, but I do lead with empathy because I am a survivor myself. And so, and also my husband's a survivor. And so when clients come in, I am very picky about the type of clients that the firm, um, accepts to take on. Um. will not get that with sort of larger law firms. You, they kind of take on whoever comes in the door. And I have, um, you know, the, I'm blessed in that respect that I don't have to accept every client. Like for instance, I. When a narcissist walks into our door, I'm not gonna accept that type of client. Um, it's just they're going to want to strategize the [00:13:00] case in order to harm their spouse. And that's not what our law firm is about.
Our law firm is about, you know, setting a very high standard of excellence, and we want to resolve conflict in a way that is amicably as possible. Right.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Right.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: like when they first walk in, it's like you have to put out fires and divorce attorneys will say, you know, I'm putting out the fires. Um, the first 90 days is very difficult, um, especially if you're dealing with a narcissist abuse on, you know, from, from this relationship.
And so it's very difficult. So. This, this, for us, success is when our clients resolve their conflict in a meaningful way and move on. And then sometimes they will send, you know, send gifts or cards or whatever, and they'll say, you know, thank you so much because this could have gotten really ugly. But for [00:14:00] the strategy that we, you know, in the beginning, that very first session, once they retained the firm, if it wasn't for that strategy.
It could have gotten really ugly. And so, um, I still have like, you know, Christmases cards from previous clients and the, you know, cards with their kids and things like that. So, um, that's. Meaningful and
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: I also help with, domestic, um, not only domestic violence, but children that have been abused by one of their parents.
And so, um, sexual, um, you know, sexual misconduct, rape and things like that. So I have a case in Michigan right now that I'm an attorney, not for any other case except for this one, um, where the child was raped at the age of three and a half. So I get to. You know, partake in cases like that and make a difference.
Um, their, their parent that raped them once actually visitation and parenting time. And I told my, my [00:15:00] client, I said, not over my dead body. Like he's gonna have to kill me to, to see his, uh, you know, to, to see the daughter again. And so I'm very passionate about being the voice for the voiceless. And I really think that a lot of. Law students go to law school to do this type of work and make a difference in the community. Sometimes it gets lost when they actually graduate and they, they say, well, you know, I need to take this job and I need to take these clients because they're good paying clients. And while I understand that it's not something that we do at our firm, and to your point, I think that we need to set a high bar for. Officers of the court and, um, we need to actually be helping our clients, not making it worse for them.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah. No, that's a, that is a beautiful [00:16:00] approach, I think. And, and I, I do agree. I think a lot of people go into these different professions with the idea of making a difference and then the, the realities and the complexities of bills and money and the corporate world can, can kind of. Distract or, or even just make it harder to, to get back to that.
Um, and, and the other point that you made that I think is important is that, you know, no matter what, ending a relationship, even if everybody's emotionally mature and there is no wrong done, it's painful. People feel sad sometimes. They say things they shouldn't say. I've had relationships with people where we didn't bring the best out in each other, but they're good people.
You know, it's just, we, we were, we were a combination that created the wrong chemical spark, right? Like,
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: and
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: and that's one thing. And then there's this other thing that you're talking about where you've got somebody who's maybe a little, uh, or a lot manipulative or not really coming at it from, uh, the same place of genuineness.
And that can be hard sometimes to, to see either also like when you're in it and also from [00:17:00] the outside. Because those, those tactics are they're practiced and they're subtle. So I think it's great that, that you have that, that skillset and that awareness, because I, I feel like that probably helps the people that you work with get to a place of healing and, and their own strength a little bit faster than they would otherwise.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Yeah. I mean, it's hard to heal when you're
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: I,
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: court. And you see the person, you know, every three months, right? It's
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: And so I tell clients like, the best way to heal is try to wrap up the, the divorce case and move on with your life. And if you have to co-parent, there's so many great books now about co-parenting with a narcissist, co-parenting with a difficult person. Um, you know, YouTubes, you know, um, our podcast, not to plug our podcasts, but there
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Oh, plug your podcast.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: there
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Go for it.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: you know, there, and, and also I feel like psychotherapists understand, um, cluster B personality [00:18:00] disorders way better now than, I mean, they did
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: ago when I started practice. So, um, we are allowing the victims to have a voice and to use their voice. Where I believe 22 years ago when I first started practicing, it was like, know, PE people thought, you know, if you're getting divorced, it was a really bad thing and it was like a scarlet letter a, you know, on your forehead. I mean, I come from an Iranian background. And I know divorce is still frowned upon, but 22 years ago it was even more so.
But I think that, you know, society, we need to acknowledge that sometimes things just do not work out for, uh, and one person has the best of intentions or even maybe, do both parties have the best intentions? I do think that barring any like psychological trauma or narcissism or cluster B personality.
I do think that sometimes people give up on [00:19:00] marriage too easily,
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: you know, they say lack of commitment. Well, what does that mean? Because when you get married, you say all your vows, but do you mean them when the person is sick? when the person's lost their job and now they can't provide for you in a way that they used to. I'm a, you can tell, you can tell I'm a hopeful romantic, not hopeless, but I'm a hopeful romantic.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: I love that. What advice would you give your 18-year-old self.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Well, as far as career, I wanted to be a lawyer since I was five, and I've accomplished that. So as far as careers go, I feel like I took the right path and that was my path to take. Um, but I would say just put boundaries around your. Empathy. Um, I think it's really, really important, you know? Like some of us are just [00:20:00] born empathetic, and I think that's a great thing, but you have to realize that takers will weaponize that, you
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: to put healthy boundaries around your empathy. And so I feel like as I just turned 50 in November, I feel like I do that now. And you also have to realize that not everybody. your help sometimes victims like to be victims, and that's just. That's just, you know, as plain as it gets, right?
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: sometimes I feel like as an empathetic person, you're there to help and offer advice or a listening ear. But if, if the person is doing that just to be like an emotional vampire, need to put that healthy boundary and say, wait a minute, I'm not here. You know? Um, my husband calls it trauma dumping.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah. Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: says, you know, the person's trauma dumping. And then [00:21:00] now he says, drama dumping. I'm like, drama dumping isn't even a psychological, it's a, don't even a word.
He's like, I made it up. So it went
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: It's a good one.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: it, went from trauma dumping 'cause, we have a friend who's a psychotherapist. She said, trauma dumping. And he, he and I looked at each other, we're like, that's what it is. And now he says drama. He's like, it's drama dumping. He is like, I have no ear for it.
It's like, he's so funny. So. Just to be careful because look, we only have so many years on planet Earth and it, the empath wants to help everyone and know, know that you are not that person's savior. And you
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: you know, like you said before, like meditate on yourself. Y like this is your lane. If you're going on somebody else's lane, that's not a good idea you're gonna hurt yourself. And also, [00:22:00] if you have people drama dumping on you and the you, you sense that they're, it's not going anywhere. And day in, day out, they're doing this. You need to set a healthy boundary.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah,
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: My
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: my daughter says, don't set yourself on fire to keep somebody warm. That's her.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: too.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: As hers. I'm like, oh, that's a good one.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Yes. Uh,
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: What's something you're excited about that's coming up or in your business?
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: So I'm very excited about my podcast. The co-host i, um, host it with a good friend of mine. He is actually my bestie, although I would say my husband is my best friend. So, um, I say John is my bestie. He started an IG called Male Victims of Female Narcissists.
And
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Oh.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: comes from the male perspective and then I give the female perspective. , Obviously it's called the Narcissist Abuse Recovery Channel on Spotify and Apple and iHeart and all those places where you [00:23:00] get your where you get your podcast. I'm really excited about that. We don't make money from our podcast.
We only try and, inform the community at large about, you know, these cluster b personality disorders and tell them, if you're a victim or we like to call them survivors, there is are people that will believe you and there is recovery at the other. End of this once you leave the person and, and, and you work all that out. So I'm excited about that, people keep telling me I need to write a book. Um, I have, I have started writing it. But I want to be very, sensitive because I don't want it to just be another like, you know, you know, help book. I want it
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: you know, parts of it be like, uh, a legal guide. But you know, you have to be careful because you can't give legal advice in different states.
Right. I'm only licensed
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: and Michigan for that one case. I'm [00:24:00] trying to work that out. The publicist and I were kind of, um, you know, brainstorming that. But really I think the best thing is to, if you are going through any type of relationship breakup, there are people and organizations that you can reach out to.
And again, I go back to social media because I think social media is so great. I mean, TikTok, like all these millennials talking about, you know, narcissism and mental health and parental alienation and how they don't talk
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: you know, parents like I think this is. to talk about mental health. I, I
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: my generation wasn't doing that. So I'm very proud
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: of the millennials that are having these conversations and they're difficult ones. I think that's wonderful. When you ask what I'm working on, I guess I would be the, you know, those things that just. Really working with the community and, um, strengthening our bond.
And look, if one person is hurt, we're [00:25:00] all hurt, right? Because
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: spreads, um, like wildfire. So, if I can do anything for anyone, you know, reach out and, and just ask. And sometimes I have resources like for psychotherapists and things like that.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: That's fantastic. Thank you so much. For folks that are listening, how do they learn more? Follow you, get in touch.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: So we have a huge social media, uh, following actually, um, on Instagram and TikTok, it's Jaafari Legal, um, YouTube as well. I also have threads. I don't know if you know what that
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Mm-hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Um, threads is the only social media that we have that I actually post myself. 'cause it's like your thoughts. It's like the o like, it's almost like Twitter, right?
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: the only one that I actually post myself. So if you wanna know what a divorce attorney's thinking, late at night, uh, go on threads. Um, but you know, I think again. The [00:26:00] website's, jaafari legal, just reach out, you know, reach out and, uh, if you have questions, sometimes I've helped people from other states find attorneys because they're like, we want an attorney that is narc informed. We
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Hmm.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: just blindly go through, you know, Google or, or or whatever. So, um, we are here as a resource to help the community in any way we can.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Oh, thank you so much. Is there anything that you were wanted to talk about that we haven't touched on or.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: So the Instagram for. is Narc podcast. I do wanna say one thing. Last month I joined the board of an organization that's called Casa oc. So CASA is court appointed, um, special advocates. Of Orange County. That's why it's oc.
There's [00:27:00] one in LA and it's a national organization. And what they do is they find, um, mentors, volunteer mentors for foster children. And the
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: about that is that these mentors get to come to court dependency court and advocate for their foster child that they've been assigned to, and. We have seen amazing results. Um, you know, 48 years CASA's been in, in, you know, a charity that's been around I think, you know, organizations like that are making a difference. And if you are an entrepreneur, get involved in the community. In a very, like, don't just write a check because anyone can really do that. And as a business owner you may wanna do that, but get involved your community and then you'll see the difference and um, it will just strengthen you as an entrepreneur.
'cause sometimes as an [00:28:00] entrepreneur you're very. Alone in your thoughts in your
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: in like the way that you think and sometimes you don't have employees, or even if you have a ton of employees, involved in your community somehow. It doesn't have to be Casa OC obviously, but it could be, you know. What do you care about? Do you care about, you know, the unhoused? Do you care about, um, you know, mental health? My husband is in a private wealth, so he cares about financial literacy for children. He thinks we
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: Yeah.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: all know more about that when we are younger and you know how to save, how to budget and things like that.
So out what you're passionate about and give your time to it. Because that's how we are going to improve our community in which we live in, and which we will pass down to our children.
bau--she-they-_2_08-01-2025_103112: That's beautiful. Thank you so much, and thank you for joining me today and [00:29:00] talking to my people.
Um, so, and then I think just, uh, lemme like, so thank you so much for joining me today and, uh, stay tuned everybody.
padideh-jafari--esq-_1_08-01-2025_093112: Thank you for having me.
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